As the most discerning readers know, on January 24 a 10-pages long paper by Andrea Rossi came out on ResearchGate, which advances some interesting explanations on the physics behind the operation of an E-Cat reactor. You can find it here.
The paper underlines that the realm of physics involved in the E-Cat function is most likely that of condensed matter on picometer scales (a picometre corresponds to a billionth of a millimetre), roughly halfway between atomic and nuclear ones, a domain in which interesting – probably even collective – phenomena can emerge that can be exploited to produce large amounts of (essentially free!) energy. But the most interesting aspect of the theory mentioned in the article is that it has an experimental confirmation – a sort of “signature” – in the spectrum produced by the plasma reactor during its operation.
As you can read in the section “Experimental Setup” of the cited paper,
“The E-cat SK has been put in a position to allow the eye of a spectrometer view exactly the plasma in a dark room: an ohm-meter has measured the resistance across the circuit that gives energy to the E-Cat; the control panel has been connected with an outlet with 220V, while from the control panel departed the two cables connected with the plasma electrodes; a frequency meter, a laser and a tesla-meter have been connected with the plasma for auxiliary measurements; a Van der Graaf electron accelerator (200 kV) has been used for the examination of the plasma electric charge. Other instruments used in the experimental setup: a voltage generator/modulator; two oscilloscopes, one for the power source and one for monitoring the energy consumed by the E-Cat; Omega thermocouples to measure the delta T of the cooling air; IR thermometer; a frequency generator“.
Here below you can see a schematic picture of the experimental setup used for the kind of experiments performed to shed new light on physics behind an E-Cat. It was sent to me by one of the scientists involved in this venture and who prefers to remain anonymous. However, please note that it is an official setup approved by Leonardo Corporation (see last image).
I decided to publish an interesting document of which I have come into possession a bit of time ago, and commissioned by the management of an important Italian company quoted at the Stock Exchange, very active in the field of renewable energies, which – although two years “old” and then not updated with the latest and more promising developments – attests the growing interest in LENR by those who see in this new way of producing energy a great business opportunity.
Significant in this regard are the cover page and the title of the document, of which you can see below and in detail the index and some significant excerpts.
So, while someone still believes Andrea Rossi a visionary – or worse, a clever con man – some people however, often behind the scenes, are working hard and without much “publicity” trying to replicate the E-Cat and the results achieved by the Italian inventor.
I think, as I said in a previous post published on the Italian version of my blog, that in the coming months (also because of the ongoing developments in the US legal dispute between the Leonardo Corporation and Industrial Heat), we will see more interesting news. And I also have a surprise which, if everything goes in the right way, I will put you soon aware.
To conclude this post, the first after the summer break, I take this opportunity to greet all the kind readers of my blog. Stay tuned!
After about 3 years since the first request of explanation presented in the “Question time” to the Italian Chamber of Deputies by the member of the Italian Parliament Domenico Scilipoti (see here), the “E-Cat affair” gains ground, and become protagonist in a workshop on “Frontier Researches”, held in Rome on November 24, 2015, organized by Scilipoti himself.
I was really pleased to participate as a speaker in this conference, where I could intervene with a presentation titled LENR and the E-Cat: Energy of the future?.
My intent was to illustrate the huge potential of this invention and describe the most interesting facts related to its development in their real succession.
For the occasion, Andrea Rossi kindly granted a new brief interview that I projected at the end of my talk. I decided to share its content with all the people who follow my blog.
A new short interview with Andrea Rossi about the current status of the E-Cat.
Finally, I would take this opportunity to thank Senator Scilipoti (next to me in the photo shown here) for the invitation and Mr. Rossi for his willingness.
I wish you a good vision!
P.S. The interview has been translated and subtitled in English by a professional service.
Many of you have suspected that Andrea Rossi could have a high-level protection that would allow him to work at his best. Surely you are in the right, but perhaps you didn’t think exactly what you’re going to read. 🙂
A photo was recently released by Andrea Rossi with him while proudly shows the US patent for his invention, the E-Cat. On the left you see a my elaboration of such image.
After a few days, I received by a reader an e-mail whose content is reported below, apart from the private conclusion:
Good morning Dr. Nikolova,
I follow the story of the E-Cat since it became public in 2011 and, to stay updated, I read several blogs that talk about this affair. On one of them I saw the attached image, seeming to be a Madonna placed between the pages of Rossi’s agenda. You are the author of his biography, so do you know something about it? Hoping for a your kind response, I thank you in advance, complimenting also for your book which I thoroughly enjoyed. […]
I am a psychologist and then, by nature and profession, an inquisitive person. The detail visible in the image shown below, probably prepared by an expert in photography, struck me too.
Detail of the Rossi’s personal agenda on his desk.
It is the agenda of Rossi, visible on the desktop, where you can see, on its right hand page, an image that seems a Madonna or something like that. So, I asked Andrea what it was…
“Dear Vessy, here is the story of the image you asked about,” Andrea begins the unexpected story. “That is the image of the ‘Madonna delle Grazie‘ “, he explains.
So, I immediately searched on the web, where I found a beautiful picture of the Madonna, Santa Maria delle Grazie or, in English, ‘St. Mary of the Graces’, which coincides with the silhouette of the image analyzed above.
Andrea told me in detail the story:
“When I have been made free and exited from the prison of Milan, Italy, after being cleared, I went immediately to prey in the church of ‘Santa Maria delle Grazie’ (the prison is not far from there)”.
Rossi, in fact, was arrested several years ago in Italy for a long story, as an unpredictable consequence of a previous and important discovery, as described in detail in my book “E-CAT THE NEW FIRE – A biography of Andrea Rossi,” which you can find here.
Andrea continues the story underlining that this is an important church: “It is, by the way, the church with inside the famous fresco ‘The Last Supper’ by Leonardo Da Vinci”.
Indeed, on the end wall of the refectory of Santa Maria delle Grazie, there is one of the world’s most famous religious paintings, a masterpiece of the Italian Renaissance.
Leonardo Da Vinci’s “The Last Supper” (1495-97).
Then he explained how the events took place:
“I prayed in that church for my future life and prayed to make useful for something all the studies made in prison on the LENR. I have taken that day, in the same church, an image of St. Mary of the Graces, which is exactly the one that you can see inside my agenda”.
Finally, he reveals why the image of Our Lady is so faded:
“From the day I have taken it, many years ago, I prey everyday looking at it, to make useful my work on LENR, so that now it is very worn and barely visible”.
The church of Santa Maria delle Grazie, in Milan.
That’s it. If, from now on, you wonder how Rossi was able to discover the effect that carries his name, you should consider that, in addition to the “material” things, an important role – in my opinion – may have been played by the more ethereal spiritual component.
Eng. Antonio La Gatta does not seem to love the interviews, as our readers well know, but his sister – Concetta La Gatta (in the photo) – seems, luckily, to have a very different attitude towards the media.
A few days ago a very intriguing interview with Concetta made by Gianni Avvantaggiato has been published by an Italian website that, sincerely, I never heard before: Ambienteambienti.com. You can find it here.
The piece is very interesting, because it says that a family business founded in 2000 is now guided by Concetta, who has a degree in Sciences of Education.
Indeed, she is CEO of Skeda srl, which markets in Italy and in the world the products of the mother Company, TSEM, which on the contrary is born in the late 90s on the outskirts of Naples, being her father of Neapolitan origin.
She says about TSEM: “Later we entered in the medical nutrition field with a patent that still allows us to maintain the exclusive, reproduced in different models and variants. Today, NRL SRI, ENEA, are agencies for which the TSEM is the design innovation in research”.
It is not clear which is the relationship between a medical nutrition patent and the cold fusion field, but sometimes clarity for the Italian journalists is an optional.
But the most interesting part of the interview is the final answer given by Concetta: “Soon the excellent captain who is my brother Antonio will move to the US to direct the new US operating units in North Carolina, in collaboration with MIT, Texas Tech University, Industrial heat”.
Some medical products made by TSEM (from TSEM website).
Mrs La Gatta continues: “And the administration of TSEM in Italy will be transferred to me, and this is a stimulus even stronger towards the study and comparison with other businesses”.
I wonder which kind of business there is between Industrial Heat and TSEM. We know that in the past the Italian Company has provided to SRI a calorimeter, but with the high COPs obtained by IH a very sensible device seems not necessary.
Thus, it seems a different kind of collaboration… Hmmm, here “La Gatta ci cova…”. However, I’ve not found on the web official information about products or services provided by TSEM in the LENR field. It is a secret business, shhhhh!
Someone should warn Concetta… 🙂
An interesting post sent by Alessandro Cavalieri on a scientifically promising Ni-H research line performed in Italy producing an unexplained “side effect”:
I found extremely intriguing – because it could open a completely new area of research in Physics if it will be confirmed by other researchers – the effect of spontaneous generation of a potential difference, or voltage, found in Constantan wires by Francesco Celani (Italian National Institute of Nuclear Physics, INFN), Giorgio Vassallo (University of Palermo, Italy) and their many collaborators.
The experiments performed by the professional Italian group are very original and instructive for many aspects and have been well described in the poster presented at ICCF-19, and that you can find here.
Since the end of 2011 Celani et al. introduced, in the LENR research field, a new (low
cost) material, Copper-Nickel alloy, named “Costantan” (ISOTAN 44, Isabellenhutte – Germany, composition: Cu 55% Ni 44% Mn 1%), and demonstrated that it, at nano/micrometric dimension and at high enough temperatures (>120°C), catalyzes the dissociation of H2 to 2H and absorb/adsorb protons in the lattice.
In a typical setup, they have a Platinum wire (diameter = 100 Micrometers) used mainly for calibration purposes (“reference”) and two Constantan wires (the “active”) with different diameters (100 and 200 Micrometers, respectively) and/or surface treatments. Each wire is inserted inside a Boro-Silicate Glass fiber sheet (the 3 sheaths are closely braided each other).
Photo of the small, dissipation type, transparent reactor operating at INFN-LNF. The
volume is about 250cc. The 2 wires, reference and active, are rounded on a mica support. The thermocouples are Type K, SS screened (diameter 1.5 millimeter).
Some of the results obtained using these wires in a simple dissipation reactor (see the picture above) made of a thick-walled boro-silicate glass tube, were quite reproducible and the Anomalous Heat Effect (AHE) detected (at Constantan wire surface temperatures of 160 – 400°C) was about 5-10W with 50W of electric input power.
Periodically, the resistance of one constantan wire was measured by a general-purpose multimeter to evaluate the presence of absorbed Hydrogen. They observed that the wire resistance decreases (up to values as low as 70% of initial one, the so-called R/Ro ratio), when the Constantan wire is heated in presence of Hydrogen.
Details of first loading by H2-Ar mixture. The “trigger” temperature, to get the large resistance decrease of sub-micrometric Constantan wire, was about 125°C. Temperature measured by a type K thermocouple (SS sealed) inside the gas cell.
On June 25, 2014, the group noted, almost by chance, that Constantan wire generates by itself a macroscopic voltage (>>100 Microvolts), that is function of many parameters (temperature, gas type, pressure, value of R/Ro). Maximum values (not stable over time, only few hours) were of the order of 1400 Microvolts and current of 120 Microampere. Stable values were about half.
What is more interesting is that the effect is not the usual Seebeck effect, because they use only one wire, NOT a junction of 2 different materials, like in thermocouples. According to Celani et al., the new spontaneous voltage (and the low excess heat) are related to some of the following parameters and conditions:
- absolute value of temperature (as large as possible, avoiding material sintering);
- enough amount of Hydrogen absorbed/adsorbed by the catalytic material, i.e. to the use of a proper nanomaterial;
- flux (as large and fast as possible) of Hydrogen from a region of high concentration to a lower one;
- the addition of elements that have Hydrogen concentration increasing with temperature (like Fe);
- the wires that have good performances from the point of view of excess heat values show values of spontaneous voltages quite remarkable;
- the non-equilibrium conditions, as large as possible, look the most important condition to get any type of thermal or electrical anomalies.
So, it is clear that more work is necessary to better understand the complex phenomenology and to increase further useful “anomalies”. There are also clear “connections” with the results obtained by Andrea Rossi and Brian Ahern – which are a first indirect confirmation of this excellent work – but Celani’s apparatus seems more suited to a further experimental study of the parameters and physics involved, hopefully under the umbrella of the INFN.
ALESSANDRO CAVALIERI is a physicist who teaches Mathematics and Physics in a secondary school, in Northern Italy. His cultural interests goes from Chaos Theory to the Mind-Matter connections. He loves to read books on the history of Physics.
I received from Eng. Ventola this original contribute, inspired by a Swedish document online that seems to contain some interesting info about the “Rossi Effect”:
In 2011, the Swedish Defense Material Agency (FMW) has financed some very rudimentary experiments with nickel and hydrogen, trying to experimentally reproduce the excess heating power claimed by Andrea Rossi and prof. Sergio Focardi (Physics Department, Bologna University) in their paper “A new Energy Source from Nuclear Fusion” (2010).
This information is contained in an original document 25-pages long, titled “Experiments with Nickel and Hydrogen”, by Curt Edström and Jan Erik Nowacki. You can find it here. FMW, a government agency connected with the Swedish military, is the Sweden’s equivalent of DARPA (Defense Advanced Projects Agency) in the US.
Some vessels used by the Swedish scientists in their experiments on Ni-H systems.
The report is a short description of some experiments on the nickel-hydrogen line of research, in which 4 different forms of nickel (see the table below) were tested in contact with hydrogen at different pressures and temperatures. Some of the nickel samples also contained other metals as “catalysts” like lithium, potassium and iron.
In some of the samples the nickel was in micrometer large crystal grains, in other samples – for example, some powders provided by Brian Ahern upon request, because he had said to have powders that had resulted in some form of reaction – the nickel was in the form was in the form of nanometer grains embedded in zirconium oxide.
Examples of powders used in the experiments of the Swedish Defense Material Agency.
However this document is interesting not for the description of their experiments – as neither significant excess heat, nor any radiation indicating nuclear reactions has been detected by these Swedish researchers, likely due to a not extended experimental effort – but because the group received precious advice directly from Rossi.
Indeed, we read already in the first page of the report: “Contact were taken with many active researchers in the field, including Andrea Rossi, for guidance to find a functioning solution. Andrea Rossi could not reveal his catalyst for us but thought that we would get a small indicative response using just pure nickel and hydrogen”.
The other precious information contained in the Swedish paper is the following: “Rossi also mentioned that a hydrogen pressure of at least 200 bar and a temperature of 500 °C was necessary in order to see any effect without the catalyst”.
This is a news, because Rossi has never publicly stated that to reproduce his “Rossi Effect” the catalyst is NOT necessary. We have had a clue of this only from the recent Alexander Parkhomov’s successful replication of a Hot-Cat, but the powders used by the Russian physicist include also Lithium and Aluminum under the form of lithium aluminum hydride (LiAlH4), so in theory one of these two elements (or both) could be a catalyst.
A. Parkhomov has used a LiAlH4 powder as Hydrogen source, instead of a gas cylinder.
As, according to the prof. Sergio Focardi (that collaborated with Rossi since around 2008), the function of the catalyst probably was to transform the hydrogen from normal, or diatomic, into monatomic – so that it could penetrate into the metal lattice of nickel – it is reasonable that, at high pressures and temperatures, the catalyst is not necessary to make the hydrogen penetrate the nickel lattice, then showing a hint of “Rossi Effect”.
However, the words of Rossi should be taken with caution, since it is well known that at high temperatures nickel powders sinter together, probably making impossible the occurrence of Rossi Effect. It seems that also the Swedish researchers, in some of their experiments – probably for a deliberate choice – did not address this problem.
Therefore, presumably, the situation can be summarized as follows: at high temperatures a catalyst is not necessary, but rather an element or a substrate which avoids the sintering; whereas, at low temperatures, a catalyst – in the strictest sense of the term – is required to make the hydrogen monatomic. I prefer not to say more.
Regarding the values of pressure and temperature suggested by Rossi to the Swedish researchers, it is interesting to notice that the first Rossi’s international patent application for the E-Cat, filed in 2008 (WO2009125444A1), mentioned in the Abstract “a reaction between nickel and hydrogen atoms in a tube” having a pressure “preferably from 2 to 20 bars” and heated to “a high temperature, preferably from 150 to 500 °C”.
The two “allowed zones” for Rossi Effect on the Temperature-Pressure diagram.
The picture above shows the “allowed zones” for the Rossi Effect, according to the old patent application and the advice given by Rossi himself, 3-4 years later, to the Swedish scientists. I added in red the likely or reasonable position, on this Temperature-Pressure diagram, of the recent Parkhomov’s experiment, which would explain its success.
Moreover, it’s quite remarkable that 200-220 bar is also the typical pressure of gas in Hydrogen cylinders, used by Rossi in his early experiments. So, it would seem that, in the MFMP’s experiment trying to replicate Rossi’s “Dog Bone” reactor, the importance of the (right) pression inside the ceramic vessel has been largely underestimated.
The Swedish document also mentions, even if with not so many details, an interesting experimental result: “According to an e-mail conversation with Hanno Essén and Rossi, Rossi has received measured spectra of electron-positron annihilation at 511 keV”.
This is another “news”, because such annihilation, predicted in the Focardi and Rossi’s paper as a consequence of a possible reaction transforming a nickel atom plus a proton into a copper atom – later decaying back into nickel again with the release of a positron and a neutrino – was not detected in the public test performed on January 14, 2011.
The detector for gamma rays at 511 keV used on the E-Cat tested on January 14, 2011 (original photo taken by Daniele Passerini, slightly modified).
The failure to detect the phenomenon is in accordance with the recent Rossi’s answer given in an interview: “After these years of experimentation, testing, measuring and analysis, we noticed that the main source of energy in our reactor is not so much a fusion, but a shift of the isotopic composition of the atoms contained in the fuel charge”.
Finally, another important information given by Andrea Rossi is cited in the Swedish document at page 15: “As we have been told by Rossi, the powder had to be cycled several times to get “active” and as the power from a possible reaction would also come in ‘bursts’ (the length of these ‘bursts’ were however largely unknown to us)”.
For a description of what “to be cycled” means in practice, you can read the Sergio Focardi’s papers on his early experiments performed (on nickel rods and at pressures of the order of 1 bar) with Francesco Piantelli in Siena. One important difference: using high pressures, you do not need to use a vacuum pump, instead at 1 bar it was a “must”.
R. Ventola – Electrical engineer
In these days I did a long interview with Andrea Rossi. I would like to dedicate it as a special New Year gift to all those who bought, or will buy, my book “E-Cat – The New Fire”.
1) When you were a child, have you ever dreamed of inventing something that would changed the world? Who has been your “model”?
“I was fascinated from the character of Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of the penicillin. I was asthmatic at high degree, and my mother repeated many times that I was alive thanks to Fleming. I wanted to do something as he did. That has been my first model, apart my parents”.
2) In your family there were other people having a love for science or for inventions?
“Yes, my mother and my father mainly, and my grandfather. In particular my mother. I learnt from them that only with hard work you can do something valid. They were very hard workers and made me feel guilty every time I was doing nothing… so I had always to invent something to do”.
3) In the biography I wrote is mentioned your theatrical experience. Where does your passion come from and how do you reconcile it with your very different career path that led you to do this epochal invention?
“I was nineteen years old, and I loved theater, in particular Bertold Brecht. I had seen the ‘Santa Giovanna dei Macelli’ directed by Giorgio Strehler and I wanted to learn ‘regia teatrale’, i.e. theatrical direction, that was taught at the school of the ‘Piccolo Teatro di Milano’, in Milan. The director was Giorgio Strehler and the course was very interesting. I learnt many very useful things. It was a top level school: Gabriele Salvatores was in the same course I attended. We started together an experimental theater, ‘Teatro Popolare Zara’, but he continued and won an Oscar with the movie ‘Mediterraneo’, while I had in the same period the intuition of the process to make fuel from wastes and decided to follow this route of destiny”.
4) I wonder if your past business, oil from waste, has been of help to develop an appropriate strategy in this new challenge, regarding the E-Cat.
“Yes, it has, because I have set up an industry, managing R&D, manufacturing, sales. I learnt a lot, also in this case with a bumpy path of trials and errors”.
5) What memories do you have of Prof. Sergio Focardi, as a scientist as well as a man?
“He was very generous, as usually are professors, in transmitting his knowledge. I learnt from him many theoretical issues and rehearsed my mathematic skills: he was a very strong mathematic. He strongly believed in LENR and he was convinced that it was not necessary to look for exotic physics to explain them, it was enough to study well the existing Standard Model. He was extremely honest, sincere. We worked extremely well together when we set up the experiments in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011; in 2012 his health began to be critical, but the day before dying he was clutching with his hands the copy of the 2013 report of the Independent Third Party: he couldn’t speak, but was reading the report with the light of God in his eyes”.
Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi (1932-2013), professor emeritus of Physics at the University of Bologna. He collaborated with Rossi on the development of the Energy Catalyzer, or “E-Cat”.
6) I imagine that in these years you have received many pressures and threats against your project, the E-Cat. If so, have you ever thought to give up everything?
“Until I will be alive I will work on this. Pressures sustained with threats, blackmails have on my work the same effect of tennis balls served against a tank”.
7) What was the best moment for you during these years of hard work on the E-Cat?
“The publication of the 2014 Independent Third Party report. For obvious reasons”.
8) Can you tell us the more funny story than happened to you concerning the E-Cat?
“Never happened anything particularly funny. It has been a continuous struggle against problems after problems. We did not get fun at all, like soldiers during a war. Our team has worked – and is working – with a focus that does not leave space to get fun. I am sorry, but I am thinking on your question and I am not able to find anything funny”.
9) Can you give us a comparison between the work on the E-Cat in Italy and in the US? What are the pro and con that you met in these two countries so different?
“Honestly, I worked very well in Italy as well as I am working in the USA, where I have continued the work started in Italy; the advantages here does not depend on me, but on the fact that here I found a Team that accelerated the evolution of this technology: a great team that is working very, very hard. Industrial Heat is the maximum level of help I could dream of, in any field”.
10) Having a team of engineers and physicists working for the E-Cat has relieved you from your work in some way?
“The team of Industrial Heat has allowed to accelerate the evolution and also the progress towards the diffusion of this technology in the market”.
11) What are the obstacles or difficulties that remain to be overcome so that the E-Cat can reach the ultimate goal, which is the market?
“As a matter of fact, the E-Cat has already reached the market. The 1 MW plant we are focused on right now is a plant installed in the factory of a Customer of Industrial Heat. From now on the performance of our plants will not be measured in scientific tests, but in real production of thermal energy that the plant makes for the production necessities of the same Customer. If the Customer will make with our plant the money he is expecting to make, the plant is good, otherwise will have to be corrected. Failure is not an option”.
12) Do you think the fact that there are competitors who engage in the LENR may ultimately benefit you to open a road otherwise bureaucratically difficult?
“I never comment the work of our competitors and we do not take into account any influence of our Competitors related to our work. We have to make our work at the best and reach our targets independently from what happens outside our reach”.
13) At what point is the theoretical understanding of the “Rossi Effect” and what percentage of your efforts is headed in that direction?
“I think I have all the equations ready to understand the theoretical fundamentals of the so-called ‘Rossi Effect‘. The publication is so far constrained within the particular situation regarding our Intellectual Property and its defense. I can only say that, as foreseen by Prof. Sergio Focardi, we are well inside the Standard Model. As Focardi said, it is just necessary to study it well to understand LENR, it is not necessary to go for exotics”.
14) What was the most ferocious criticism received over the years? And which was instead the most beautiful compliment?
“I have been disgusted of the fact that to fight against me our enemies have used the vicissitudes of my past, so that I had to defend myself, 20 years later, from things that have nothing to do with my present work. After the 2013 test of the Independent Third Party, Prof. Sven Kullander, Chairman of the Energy Committe of the Swedish Royal Academy of Science, said to me when I went to the University of Uppsala to prepare the protocol for the 2014 test: ‘The so-called Rossi Effect exists beyond any possible doubt‘. This has been surely the most important recognition I had so far”.
Prof. Sven Kullander (in the box) has been a member of the Swedish Royal Academy of Science (photo), the prestigious body that awards the Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry.
15) Regarding the often personal and violent attacks to the numerous authors of the 2nd Third Party Report, there is something that you want to say?
“When Albert Einstein published his Theory of Relativity, he has been initially attacked and criticized as if Relativity was a clownery. Honestly, I didn’t read any critic worth an answer that has not been answered to properly, regarding the Third Party Report you mentioned. From now on the so-called Rossi Effect will talk only with plants in operation. The Customers will say if it works or not. The results could be positive, but also negative, who knows? We’ll see”.
16) What do you think of the replication of the ‘Rossi Effect’ made with a calorimetric system by the Russian scientist Alexander Parkhomov?
“It is possible that, with the data published by the Third Independent Party in the Lugano Report, a replication of the effect is made. I do not know the particulars, therefore I cannot comment; but, if true, congratulations to the Russian Scientist”.
17) What are your expectations for the New Year? And in particular about the work on the various types of E-Cats that you are doing?
“I think the 2015 will bring: 1- the consolidation of the technology of the 1 MW plant in operation in the factory of the Customer; 2- the gas-fueled Hot-Cat. We are working at the maximum of our skills to get these targets. With the help of God it may be that we will be successful!”.
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I interviewed Bob Greenyer, eclectic entrepreneur and cosmopolitan ideas man who was part of a group that launched the “Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project” (MFMP), the world’s first Live Open Science project, made possible by the creation of a startup focused on LENR research. Here’re his answers:
1) Bob, when and how did you have the idea of a “Live Open Science” project? And what is the main goal of your efforts?
“I had always been frustrated by the way important science seemed to be done. I wanted science to be engaging for the wider public, so they could be part of the discovery process. The kernel of the idea occurred to me when I wrote my degree thesis some 21 years ago following exposure to the collaborative power of the early internet, but it wasn’t until early 2012 that I saw the opportunity for its application. The name came later, after the formation of the project to describe what we were doing. Our main goal is to show to the world there is a new, practical, primary energy source we call the New Fire”.
2) Your replication attempt of the Celani’s experiment with a surface modified constantan wire reactor began in 2013. What was the target and what results have been obtained?
“Our target was to replicate the claims of excess heat made by Francesco Celani at National Instruments Week, USA, and ICCF-17, Korea, both in 2012. It was a truly courageous thing of Francesco to release his part explored work. The target was to seek truth. We found excess heat signals of up to 12.5%, but that was below Celani’s findings which was disappointing. We later discovered oversight and other aspects of Celani’s original experiment that retrospectively adjusted his output to be in line with our own, which was satisfying”.
3) Can you tell us something about the other types of experiments going on right now? Can you say in a few lines what results they aim to achieve?
“Other than the on-going Celani experiments in Switzerland and France, in the US, Ryan Hunt’s team has completed the first phase of testing of our new generation of powder cells using Nickel powders with Hydrogen, so far we only saw low single digit excess percent, which is of little interest. Second phase is to include Iron Oxide based catalyst and Lithium Hydrides. The Tesla technology based electrical discharge cell inspired by Stoyan Sarg will first test Ahern powder + Hydrogen before adding Lithium Hydrides. In France, Mathieu Valat continues to collaborate with Jean-Paul Biberian on Mizuno style cells”.
4) What can you tell us of your most recent project of E-Cat replication just started, “Project Dog Bone”, and of the setup of such experiment?
“Well, firstly, it cannot be a replication as we are not party to all of the facts. Initially, the so-called =Project Dog Bone= will test the thermal characteristics of a reactor made from similar materials to that tested in Lugano, this study will add valuable data for others to consider. We will then take a best guess at what is in the reactor and how it is controlled and attempt to re-create the effect. Even if we do see something similar, it may still not be considered a replication, it may be another approach that produces a similar effect”.
5) Nobody is the owner of the IP of what you’ll find, right? But this could delay a LENR product to the market. What’s your opinion about it?
“The old fire serves all of humanity, directly or indirectly, every day, regardless of IP, so it will be with the New Fire. Since the New Fire promises to be better in nearly every way, once clearly demonstrated, I see no problem with delivery other than by deliberate obstruction by vested interests. Good companies make billions on cars and smart devices and the basics of the internal combustion engine and Linux are open. Furthermore, the extreme importance of the New Fire would make international bodies force IP holders to provide affordable licensing of the technology to all”.
6) Your target is to raise 500.000$ to pay for equipment, the materials and anything else. In which forms and ways can a person contribute?
“Firstly, people can contribute by openly collaborating with us or by following what we do, spreading the word and scouring the literature for useful insights. Also, donation of time and equipment is very helpful. In fact we have 3 research groups wishing to join our effort and we need resources to help support them. Our work is primarily made possible by donations and individual donations of up to $1000 can be made via quantumheat.org, or if people are able to contribute more they can contact us via the same website. We really want to accelerate our work, support new teams, improve our website, build rich media for better LENR communication and take on more permanent lab hands, so today we are announcing our new initiative called the ‘Fusion Fund‘”.
7) Already the name “Fusion Fund” sounds nice… What is it, exactly?
“It is a match fund and has 3 components:
1. Quantum Heat Inc – a 501.c.3 US charity registered in California;
2. Big ticket donation pledges that provide matching funds;
3. Donations by the crowd, either directly on the website, or to the US charity.
We are looking for philanthropic individuals or organizations to pledge $10,000 or more to the 501.c.3 that will be called upon as matching funds. When any other donations are received, they catalyze a reaction causing fusion with a matching fund, the smaller donor sees their contribution doubled and a match fund provider, depending on their tax rate, could see up to a quadrupling of their effective donation – this is a COP of 4!”.
8) Definitely an original idea, but I know that there is another little scoop for the readers…
“Yes, we hope to secure a number of match fund pledges, but the great news is, that for next year, we have already received two pledges of $20,000 or more which, when triggered by crowd donations, will yield $80,000. Of course, we need the small donations to make this happen, so the crowd is the key! All donations under $1000 since October 8th 2014 will be matched in this way. Thank you to every contributor – we’re lighting the New Fire together.”
BOB GREENYER holds a bachelor of Engineering and a Manufacturing Engineering degree from Brunel University, London. He co-founded Quantum Heat C.I.C., a not-for-profit Community Interest Company registered in United Kingdom.
Had you ever seen an high-res photo of Rossi with three Hot-Cats all together? Now you have… 😉
As promised, this is the whole picture of a part of the large Rossi’s laboratory in Ferrara, Italy.
It shows Andrea Rossi and three Hot-Cats. The photo was taken on September 26, 2013, with a good quality camera of an Apple smartphone using a flash, even if no reflections are visible because the shot was taken from a quite great distance and from above a loft.
You are free to publish this picture in your blog or article, provided that you put a link to the source.
If you click on the image I’ve posted, you can see the original photo, where you can distinguish many details, such as the title of the book that Rossi was reading: “The particle at the end of the Universe“, by Sean Carroll, winner of the Royal Society Winton Prize for Science Books.
On the table we can also see some notes, whereas for the technical part I refer to my sources:
“On the left, there is a Neutron Dose Analog Ratemeter produced by Ludlum Measurements Inc. (see photo below), that can detect fast and slow neutrons eventually emitted from the reactors. The instrument to the right of the near notebook is, probably, a Geiger Counter.
The second gray box on the main table is a Safety Switch, model Square D, produced by Schneider Electric (see photo above on the right). It provides an effective way to interrupt power in an emergency. You’ll find other photos and the specs here.
It seems that only one of the thermocouples used to measure the temperatures of the single reactors is now connected to the other gray box, which could then be used to stabilize the reactor or for producing, if and when necessary, the ‘electro-magnetic stimulation‘ cited in the 2nd TPR”.
The photo below has been published for the first time 6 days ago in my book “E-Cat – The new Fire“. It is part of a much larger and interesting picture that I will release in the near future.
See the hi-res original by clicking on the photo and then right clicking on the mouse to download.
The photo has been taken on September 26, 2013, at 10:20, with an iPhone 5. The laboratory showed was in Ferrara, Italy. Later, Rossi moved in an Industrial Heat‘s facility, in the USA.
It is the first image of a Rossi’s laboratory that has been published in the last year and a half. The last images were released on May, 2013. So, it can be rightly considered a Vessy’s scoop.
I asked for help from some experts to figure out what’s in the picture:
“First of all, you can notice an IR camera to monitor the temperature. You can also see a gray panel whose function could be that of emergency switch, and where you can read the currents involved or, more likely, the temperature on the external part of a Hot-Cat measured through a thermocouple.
The red box should be the power supply, with above its settings panel distinguished by the illuminated display. It seems to be just a “Compact Fusion” model (see photo on the right).
The yellow instrument visible at the end of the table is a three-phase power logger model Fluke 1735 (see photo on the left). It can record the parameters of power supply and all the associate parameters (electrical load, logging quality and so on) up to a maximum of 45 days.
Lastly, the Hot-Cat showed is a traditional model, not the ‘naked’ version used for the last test”.