I received some questions from some skeptics: are you willing to answer?”
That’s how I contacted Andrea in a work break for a rather “uncomfortable” and unusual interview and, to my surprise… he accepted!
Here are the answers:
Which excuse will you tell us if there will be no product presentation by the end of December?
A.: First I had to comb the dolls, then I had to dry the rocks of the peer, then I sharpened the tip to all the Egyptian pyramids, what could I do more?
Why do not you put your technology open source and retire?
A.: Because my wife told me that if I stay home all day she asks for a divorce.
Why nobody has managed to replicate the so-called “Rossi Effect”?
A.: I suggest you go to www.ecat.com, Check the REPLICATIONS paragraph, avoiding to chew on a cigarette while reading.
Will the E-Cat end the same way of oil from waste?
A.: Are you asking whether ENI will copy also this technology? It may be, but it will have to wait until the patent expires, as it did for waste oil, whose US patent has just expired: damn it, it’s already 20 years ago, I’m getting old…
How did you get your degree: with MiraLanza points?
(MiraLanza was a famous Italian company which in the Seventies offered points to the buyers of its products, mainly detergents)
A.: I graduated at the State University of Milan, Via Festa del Perdono.
How did you get all your hair back? Thanks to your Faith in God?
A.: I have to wear an anti-radiation wig after a head cancer. The wig is made with special materials that protect against radiations.
Hundreds of scientists from all over the world, financed with billions of euros and dollars, have not been able to obtain nuclear fusion, that is the goal for which they were financed, but you alone, and with a few million, succeeded: another miracle like hair re-growth?
A.: Do not be modest: the hot fusion has achieved the goal it wanted to achieve: billions of euros and dollars!
Someone says that you’re a wimp at tennis, even if you play for a lifetime: is it true?
Your collaborators say that working with you is impossible: is it true?
A.: If working with me is impossible, how can they be collaborators?
Are you happy to have done this interview?
A.: I couldn’t wait!
Dear friends and readers of this blog, good morning!
Last night, I had the opportunity to participate in a live web TV broadcast, conducted by Eng. Salvo Mandarà, on the theme “E-Cat The New Fire – A look to the energy of the future”.
I would like to share with you this addictive and constructive experience. You can find the interview at this link: http://www.salvo5puntozero.tv/e-cat-il-nuovo-fuoco-uno-sguardo-allenergia-del-futuro-intervista-con-vessela-nikolova-27102015/.
I also take this opportunity to thank again Salvo Mandarà and congratulate him for his courageous choice of life that makes accessible and undisclosed information and news that otherwise would be left out from the mass media mainstream.
Greetings to all of you,
In these days I did a long interview with Andrea Rossi. I would like to dedicate it as a special New Year gift to all those who bought, or will buy, my book “E-Cat – The New Fire”.
1) When you were a child, have you ever dreamed of inventing something that would changed the world? Who has been your “model”?
“I was fascinated from the character of Alexander Fleming, the discoverer of the penicillin. I was asthmatic at high degree, and my mother repeated many times that I was alive thanks to Fleming. I wanted to do something as he did. That has been my first model, apart my parents”.
2) In your family there were other people having a love for science or for inventions?
“Yes, my mother and my father mainly, and my grandfather. In particular my mother. I learnt from them that only with hard work you can do something valid. They were very hard workers and made me feel guilty every time I was doing nothing… so I had always to invent something to do”.
3) In the biography I wrote is mentioned your theatrical experience. Where does your passion come from and how do you reconcile it with your very different career path that led you to do this epochal invention?
“I was nineteen years old, and I loved theater, in particular Bertold Brecht. I had seen the ‘Santa Giovanna dei Macelli’ directed by Giorgio Strehler and I wanted to learn ‘regia teatrale’, i.e. theatrical direction, that was taught at the school of the ‘Piccolo Teatro di Milano’, in Milan. The director was Giorgio Strehler and the course was very interesting. I learnt many very useful things. It was a top level school: Gabriele Salvatores was in the same course I attended. We started together an experimental theater, ‘Teatro Popolare Zara’, but he continued and won an Oscar with the movie ‘Mediterraneo’, while I had in the same period the intuition of the process to make fuel from wastes and decided to follow this route of destiny”.
4) I wonder if your past business, oil from waste, has been of help to develop an appropriate strategy in this new challenge, regarding the E-Cat.
“Yes, it has, because I have set up an industry, managing R&D, manufacturing, sales. I learnt a lot, also in this case with a bumpy path of trials and errors”.
5) What memories do you have of Prof. Sergio Focardi, as a scientist as well as a man?
“He was very generous, as usually are professors, in transmitting his knowledge. I learnt from him many theoretical issues and rehearsed my mathematic skills: he was a very strong mathematic. He strongly believed in LENR and he was convinced that it was not necessary to look for exotic physics to explain them, it was enough to study well the existing Standard Model. He was extremely honest, sincere. We worked extremely well together when we set up the experiments in 2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011; in 2012 his health began to be critical, but the day before dying he was clutching with his hands the copy of the 2013 report of the Independent Third Party: he couldn’t speak, but was reading the report with the light of God in his eyes”.
Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi (1932-2013), professor emeritus of Physics at the University of Bologna. He collaborated with Rossi on the development of the Energy Catalyzer, or “E-Cat”.
6) I imagine that in these years you have received many pressures and threats against your project, the E-Cat. If so, have you ever thought to give up everything?
“Until I will be alive I will work on this. Pressures sustained with threats, blackmails have on my work the same effect of tennis balls served against a tank”.
7) What was the best moment for you during these years of hard work on the E-Cat?
“The publication of the 2014 Independent Third Party report. For obvious reasons”.
8) Can you tell us the more funny story than happened to you concerning the E-Cat?
“Never happened anything particularly funny. It has been a continuous struggle against problems after problems. We did not get fun at all, like soldiers during a war. Our team has worked – and is working – with a focus that does not leave space to get fun. I am sorry, but I am thinking on your question and I am not able to find anything funny”.
9) Can you give us a comparison between the work on the E-Cat in Italy and in the US? What are the pro and con that you met in these two countries so different?
“Honestly, I worked very well in Italy as well as I am working in the USA, where I have continued the work started in Italy; the advantages here does not depend on me, but on the fact that here I found a Team that accelerated the evolution of this technology: a great team that is working very, very hard. Industrial Heat is the maximum level of help I could dream of, in any field”.
10) Having a team of engineers and physicists working for the E-Cat has relieved you from your work in some way?
“The team of Industrial Heat has allowed to accelerate the evolution and also the progress towards the diffusion of this technology in the market”.
11) What are the obstacles or difficulties that remain to be overcome so that the E-Cat can reach the ultimate goal, which is the market?
“As a matter of fact, the E-Cat has already reached the market. The 1 MW plant we are focused on right now is a plant installed in the factory of a Customer of Industrial Heat. From now on the performance of our plants will not be measured in scientific tests, but in real production of thermal energy that the plant makes for the production necessities of the same Customer. If the Customer will make with our plant the money he is expecting to make, the plant is good, otherwise will have to be corrected. Failure is not an option”.
12) Do you think the fact that there are competitors who engage in the LENR may ultimately benefit you to open a road otherwise bureaucratically difficult?
“I never comment the work of our competitors and we do not take into account any influence of our Competitors related to our work. We have to make our work at the best and reach our targets independently from what happens outside our reach”.
13) At what point is the theoretical understanding of the “Rossi Effect” and what percentage of your efforts is headed in that direction?
“I think I have all the equations ready to understand the theoretical fundamentals of the so-called ‘Rossi Effect‘. The publication is so far constrained within the particular situation regarding our Intellectual Property and its defense. I can only say that, as foreseen by Prof. Sergio Focardi, we are well inside the Standard Model. As Focardi said, it is just necessary to study it well to understand LENR, it is not necessary to go for exotics”.
14) What was the most ferocious criticism received over the years? And which was instead the most beautiful compliment?
“I have been disgusted of the fact that to fight against me our enemies have used the vicissitudes of my past, so that I had to defend myself, 20 years later, from things that have nothing to do with my present work. After the 2013 test of the Independent Third Party, Prof. Sven Kullander, Chairman of the Energy Committe of the Swedish Royal Academy of Science, said to me when I went to the University of Uppsala to prepare the protocol for the 2014 test: ‘The so-called Rossi Effect exists beyond any possible doubt‘. This has been surely the most important recognition I had so far”.
Prof. Sven Kullander (in the box) has been a member of the Swedish Royal Academy of Science (photo), the prestigious body that awards the Nobel Prizes in Physics and Chemistry.
15) Regarding the often personal and violent attacks to the numerous authors of the 2nd Third Party Report, there is something that you want to say?
“When Albert Einstein published his Theory of Relativity, he has been initially attacked and criticized as if Relativity was a clownery. Honestly, I didn’t read any critic worth an answer that has not been answered to properly, regarding the Third Party Report you mentioned. From now on the so-called Rossi Effect will talk only with plants in operation. The Customers will say if it works or not. The results could be positive, but also negative, who knows? We’ll see”.
16) What do you think of the replication of the ‘Rossi Effect’ made with a calorimetric system by the Russian scientist Alexander Parkhomov?
“It is possible that, with the data published by the Third Independent Party in the Lugano Report, a replication of the effect is made. I do not know the particulars, therefore I cannot comment; but, if true, congratulations to the Russian Scientist”.
17) What are your expectations for the New Year? And in particular about the work on the various types of E-Cats that you are doing?
“I think the 2015 will bring: 1- the consolidation of the technology of the 1 MW plant in operation in the factory of the Customer; 2- the gas-fueled Hot-Cat. We are working at the maximum of our skills to get these targets. With the help of God it may be that we will be successful!”.
Copyright © 2014 Vessela Nikolova for “Vessy’s Blog on E-Cat” – All rights reserved.
I interviewed Mats Lewan, science writer and engineer, author of the book “An impossible invention”, who some weeks ago has published the second edition of his essay:
1) When and how did you start to be interested in the E-Cat and Andrea Rossi?
“As I write in my book, I first heard about Rossi and the E-Cat through a tip from a reader of the Swedish technology weekly Ny Teknik, where I work as a reporter since about 15 years. The reader told me about blog reports on the semi-public demo of the E-Cat in January 2011″.
2) To write your book you’ve interviewed many protagonists of the story. What is the interview that eventually struck you the most and why?
“Most astonishing was maybe the very first phone call that I made after having learnt about the E-Cat demo to the Swedish physicist – and at that time also the chairman of the Swedish Skeptics Society – Hanno Essén, who surprised me by saying ‘this looks interesting’ “.
3) When and how did you guessed that the invention of Rossi was something real?
“Almost immediately I decided that it shouldn’t be excluded that the technology was possible. The basic principle was release of excess thermal energy through a yet unknown kind of nuclear reaction, and I couldn’t see any reason to believe that new knowledge in nuclear physics was impossible. But my assessment that there are good reasons to believe that the E-Cat works, grew slowly and gradually through my contacts with the people involved, through their testimonials and from my own measurements and observations”.
4) For your direct perception, in Sweden the story of the E-Cat was received more positively by the academic world and in the media, compared to other countries?
“No, I don’t think so. There are more people aware of the story in Sweden compared to other countries, and I dare to claim that basically the only reason for this is my reporting in Ny Teknik. But the general and academic opinion is very much the same as anywhere else — a great deal of curiosity, especially among people with interest in technology and energy, but above all a strong skepticism, particularly in the scientific community”.
5) On what do you base your assessment that the E-Cat probably works?
“It has been noted repeatedly that there are several possible sources of errors in all measurements that have been made on the E-Cat, and that is true. On the other hand there’s yet no evidence for these possible errors being real errors. But in the end, what makes me tip towards thinking that the E-Cat works, are several testimonials of when the reaction has gone awry. Yet, these are only testimonials, and you’ll have to trust the people behind them. Another influential event, however, was during a demo in October 2011 when the E-Cat worked in self sustained mode, i.e. with no external energy input, for almost four hours. And even though water was constantly being pumped into the E-Cat, and the casing was poorly insulated, it kept boiling inside, which I could hear and feel with my hands – and the external temperature remained at between 60 and 85 degrees centigrade. You would need a very powerful energy storage inside the E-Cat to achieve this without any heat producing process inside, and when the casing was opened at the end of the day, no such storage was evidently hidden inside”.
6) The Elforsk and Swedish licensee are very involved in the activities of Rossi. Do you think that Sweden is one of the preferential markets of E-Cat?
“I really don’t know. Rossi says he still has plans for some kind of center of production in Sweden, and his relationship with the licensee Hydrofusion seems to be good, but even if the technology really works, there are still too many unknowns regarding the market, the technology and Rossi’s business to answer this question. I think it’s a good thing though that Swedish entities move at an early stage, and I find it courageous by Elforsk to take this position”.
7) What is the more funny personal anecdote happened to you concerning the E-Cat?
When during one of Rossi’s demos in Bologna, three Italian supporters of Rossi from a small village in the mountains, 250 kilometers from Bologna, showed up in a car, opened the trunk and prepared a beautiful Italian ‘aperitivo’ with local delicacies from their region, accompanied with some excellent sparkling ‘Prosecco’ wine.
8) The history of the E-Cat is more intriguing than a novel, but at this time only a part of my information was disclosed in the book. Was the same for you?
“No, I have to admit that with very few exceptions I have revealed everything I have learnt and discovered regarding this story in my book, at least everything that I find relevant and with a reasonable degree of credibility. I find it interesting that you say that there’s a lot you have not been able to report at this point, and I look forward to hearing about those things one day!”.
9) How do you think this story will end?
“As I have stated in my book, there’s no generally accepted proof for the E-Cat being a valid technology, but my personal assessment is that there are good reasons to believe that it works. From a more general perspective I can see that there’s strong scientific evidence for LENR, and I’m convinced that if the E-Cat doesn’t work, continued research will turn LENR into an important and useful new energy source anyway within a near future, that will dramatically change the world and solve a series of fundamental global problems, the climate crisis included.
10) So, you’re optimist about the energy future…
Yes, because, from an even broader perspective, Einstein’s well known formula E = mc^2 tells us that energy is incredibly abundant all around us, and that the only problem is to find better, more efficient and less dangerous methods than those we know today – exothermal chemical reactions and a few nuclear reactions, essentially fission and hot fusion – to turn mass into energy. I can see no reason why we couldn’t find many new such methods in the future, which would give us limitless energy. But first we have to discard the detrimental and absurd notion that we have already discovered all possible ways to transform mass into energy”.
MATS LEWAN is a technology and science journalist, author and speaker. He works as a staff writer at the Swedish technology magazine “NyTeknik” and previously has worked at CBS Cnet News. Lewan holds a Master of Science degree in Engineering Physics from the Royal Institute of Technology in Stockholm, Sweden, where he lives with his wife and two children.
The electrical engineer and freelance reporter Salvo Mandarà has just published, on his web TV channel Salvo5puntozero.tv, a 52-minutes long interview in Italian with Andrea Rossi, connected via Skype from Miami, USA. I’ve translated it for you.
The following are all – and only – the many relevant parts of the interview, being original with respect to what is already well known. I’ve adapted the questions, which in the original version were very long, and cut all the completely unnecessary parts in the answers:
1) What are the materials used by an E-Cat as a fuel?
“The materials used are relatively common and therefore with a very low cost. The basic components of the fuel, in fact, are nickel, lithium and hydrogen. The hydrogen is produced not through electrolysis but through a thermal process. The hydrogen, in fact, is contained in a molecule, practically in a tablet. With the rising temperature activated by electrical resistors, it is released and then is used in the course of the thermal reactions. Then, when the temperature is lowered again, a good part of the tablet is recomposed, so the hydrogen is recovered”.
2) How the excess energy is produced by an E-Cat?
“The physical process by which the E-Cat works is a process of so-called ‘Low Energy Nuclear Reactions’ or LENR, that is, reactions which take place in the nucleus of an atom at temperatures ‘low’ compared to those normally required for a nuclear reaction, which does not need to be a fusion. In fact, after these years of experimentation, testing, measuring and analysis, we noticed that the main source of energy in our reactor is not so much a fusion, but a shift of the isotopic composition of the atoms contained in the fuel charge. The origin of the thermal excess energy is due to the fact that in such process there is a very small loss in mass, that is transformed into energy according to the famous Einstein’s equation E = mc^2”.
3) Can an E-Cat operate in self-sustained mode?
“Yes. The reactor can be self-sustaining for periods of time long enough. However, also for safety reasons, it is necessary that there is always ready to intervene an external source of energy, that we call ‘drive’. In 24 hours of operation, the system can run in self-sustained mode for about 3/4 of the time, i.e. for 18 hours run in self-sustained mode, but for 6 hours the drive is used. When the reactor is operating in self-sustained mode, its COP is very high for obvious reasons, but also when operating in driving, i.e. with the external power source, there’s always a COP greater than 1”.
4) If there were no safety concerns, could a reactor run without an external drive, i.e. using only the self-produced energy?
“No, for reasons of control of the reaction there must always be the drive, i.e. an amount of energy ready to intervene to moderate the operation of the plant. And having a drive to do with the security, it cannot be intrinsic, that is, cannot depend on the same equipment but must be external. So it is not true that, if there were no safety concerns, the reactor could run in a stand-alone mode”.
5) In a more or less near future, could we dream of having an E-Cat on a car?
“The application of this technology to the automotive industry is extremely complex. I spoke with the CEO of Volvo and with other automotive technicians who were intrigued by this possibility. In the automotive field, there are huge problems from the point of view of safety certification. According to the CEO of Volvo, from the time when technology was ready for automotive application, it would take from 10 to 20 years to complete all the cycles of testing and certification”.
6) When will we see an industrial production of E-Cats?
“As a matter of fact, I would say that the industrial production has already begun, in the sense that now there will be a year of very careful study of a first industrial plant that has been provided to a customer of Industrial Heat. And my job will be stay there 15 hours a day to verify a whole series of details. Indeed, it is the first time that I can finally see a machine in operation continuously for a long period – that is, for one year – and then discover all the problems due to a prolonged use”.
7) When will we see a real mass production of reactors?
“Regarding the real mass production, I can say that mass sales will begin after this year’s audit. Indeed, in this way, when many machines will be delivered, we will be very sure of what will happen to the customer, while now we are still studying above. When I made the first prototype in Italy, I was able to use it only for a few hours, because there were problems, even on the authorization side, to keep in mind. Now I can, finally, work seriously!”.
Translation and adaptation – Copyright © 2014 Vessela Nikolova. All rights reserved.
I interviewed “Dr. Bob”, nickname of a young Russian nuclear engineer creator of the popular website Dr.BoBlog, which addresses the Cold Fusion themes in a very original way:
1) Dr. Bob, can you tell us how did you get interested in science?
“My father was a chemist and since I was a child he approached me to the science. When I played with little cars or build something with Lego, I always dreamed to build flying cars because my father had introduced me to the “Fusion” concept. I imagined that within 100 years everyone would have flying cars. But I took it a step further, dreaming that I could have some fusion-based device installed in my bed. With this technology, whenever I was sad, I could go to my bed and escape from my problems: I could go anywhere! Sometimes, I went with my father to the University where he carried out his research. Often I answered correctly to his scientific questions and a candy was the sweet reward. On those occasions, sometimes he allowed me to ‘play’ with the computer”.
2) When did you get the idea of a website on Cold Fusion?
“The idea for a my website was born much later, influenced by the paranoia of a manager I worked for: a capable character who saw me much promising. He treated all his workers very bad, especially me because in his mind the most important aspect of business was the ability to handle rejection and obey authority. One day, as he took me into his office to offence me, I turned on an audio recorder: you would not believe the things that came out of his mouth! He was so paranoid that he thought I might put the audio recording on a webpage for revenge. At that time, I had just been able to confirm Cold Fusion, so my reasoning was that creating a t-shirt on this theme – and if this technology had gone on the market – I would have had the chance to earn millions”.
3) Once had this “inspiration”, did you try to implement it?
“Yes. The idea grow on me, but I decided that instead of creating just a t-shirt I would create a brand that could compete with Andrea Rossi and his E-Cats. So, I started to plan an elaborate marketing puzzle, which starting from my website might have been spread thanks to web marketing and social media, possibly reaching a global dimension. After recognizing that my goal was almost unachievable, I decided to try it anyway because I could achieve some results pointing to a higher goal than to limit myself to something more modest. Even if I had failed to prove that anything is possible, and that every idea can open up a world of possibilities, I might just inspire others capable to go farther than me”.
4) Which kind of difficulties have you encountered, if any, in communicating to the public a sensitive subject as the Cold Fusion?
“The problem is that there is no group thinking! Humans think to be so smart, but they’re not. Our collective behavior, our dependence on fossil fuels, our denial of the impact that our way of life has on the world we live in, are all very similar to that of an addict slowly killing himself by injecting heroin. Most people do not question authority. Actually, most people never question themselves either; and when we do, we tend to do so within a very small frame of reference. We all believe whatever we want to believe, no matter if it’s true or not. On a larger scale, positive thinking tends to take us farther compared to the negative thinking, so if people started to apply this attitude to themselves, we would all together make faster progress”.
5) How much time do you dedicate to your website? And do you make all the graphic work by yourself or someone helps you?
“The website is only the ‘top of the iceberg’ of what we do. Indeed, most of the time is spent on efforts ‘under the table’, that you don’t see directly. I’m not the only one working on this project: it’s a team effort. If you think that we’re just building a blog, wait and see!”.
6) Surely, you have a continuous feedback from the visitors of your blog. What kind of people is made up your audience?
“The readers of our blog are people who follow very closely the development of the technology. Among our greatest fans there are people from the space industry, a few billionaires, Nobel Prize winners, etc. About 200 visitors a day enter in our website just to see if we have posted any information about Miss Hannah Minx. As it happens on other technology blogs that deal with the Cold Fusion, many of the visitors do not leave many traces”.
7) The involvement of the female figure in popularizing science – as you do in an excellent way – surely works. But do you have a your quantitative estimate of how much?
“In Russia there is a famous saying that says: ‘If women ruled the world there would be no war, just many countries not speaking to each other!’. Women are clearly underrepresented in science and this leads to a lot of aggression. I tend to think that an open dialogue would much smoother if there were more women holding influential positions in our society.
Personally, I work very well together with females, so I try to surround myself with as many as possible. Therefore, I would not give here specific numbers: let’s just say that one of the few benefits of being in the field of Cold Fusion is that women appreciates to see men who fights for a noble cause”.
Thank you Dr. Bob, I wish you great success!
In the picture: Dr. Bob reading with great attention the instructions for a Tokamak fusion reactor.
I interviewed Bob Greenyer, eclectic entrepreneur and cosmopolitan ideas man who was part of a group that launched the “Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project” (MFMP), the world’s first Live Open Science project, made possible by the creation of a startup focused on LENR research. Here’re his answers:
1) Bob, when and how did you have the idea of a “Live Open Science” project? And what is the main goal of your efforts?
“I had always been frustrated by the way important science seemed to be done. I wanted science to be engaging for the wider public, so they could be part of the discovery process. The kernel of the idea occurred to me when I wrote my degree thesis some 21 years ago following exposure to the collaborative power of the early internet, but it wasn’t until early 2012 that I saw the opportunity for its application. The name came later, after the formation of the project to describe what we were doing. Our main goal is to show to the world there is a new, practical, primary energy source we call the New Fire”.
2) Your replication attempt of the Celani’s experiment with a surface modified constantan wire reactor began in 2013. What was the target and what results have been obtained?
“Our target was to replicate the claims of excess heat made by Francesco Celani at National Instruments Week, USA, and ICCF-17, Korea, both in 2012. It was a truly courageous thing of Francesco to release his part explored work. The target was to seek truth. We found excess heat signals of up to 12.5%, but that was below Celani’s findings which was disappointing. We later discovered oversight and other aspects of Celani’s original experiment that retrospectively adjusted his output to be in line with our own, which was satisfying”.
3) Can you tell us something about the other types of experiments going on right now? Can you say in a few lines what results they aim to achieve?
“Other than the on-going Celani experiments in Switzerland and France, in the US, Ryan Hunt’s team has completed the first phase of testing of our new generation of powder cells using Nickel powders with Hydrogen, so far we only saw low single digit excess percent, which is of little interest. Second phase is to include Iron Oxide based catalyst and Lithium Hydrides. The Tesla technology based electrical discharge cell inspired by Stoyan Sarg will first test Ahern powder + Hydrogen before adding Lithium Hydrides. In France, Mathieu Valat continues to collaborate with Jean-Paul Biberian on Mizuno style cells”.
4) What can you tell us of your most recent project of E-Cat replication just started, “Project Dog Bone”, and of the setup of such experiment?
“Well, firstly, it cannot be a replication as we are not party to all of the facts. Initially, the so-called =Project Dog Bone= will test the thermal characteristics of a reactor made from similar materials to that tested in Lugano, this study will add valuable data for others to consider. We will then take a best guess at what is in the reactor and how it is controlled and attempt to re-create the effect. Even if we do see something similar, it may still not be considered a replication, it may be another approach that produces a similar effect”.
5) Nobody is the owner of the IP of what you’ll find, right? But this could delay a LENR product to the market. What’s your opinion about it?
“The old fire serves all of humanity, directly or indirectly, every day, regardless of IP, so it will be with the New Fire. Since the New Fire promises to be better in nearly every way, once clearly demonstrated, I see no problem with delivery other than by deliberate obstruction by vested interests. Good companies make billions on cars and smart devices and the basics of the internal combustion engine and Linux are open. Furthermore, the extreme importance of the New Fire would make international bodies force IP holders to provide affordable licensing of the technology to all”.
6) Your target is to raise 500.000$ to pay for equipment, the materials and anything else. In which forms and ways can a person contribute?
“Firstly, people can contribute by openly collaborating with us or by following what we do, spreading the word and scouring the literature for useful insights. Also, donation of time and equipment is very helpful. In fact we have 3 research groups wishing to join our effort and we need resources to help support them. Our work is primarily made possible by donations and individual donations of up to $1000 can be made via quantumheat.org, or if people are able to contribute more they can contact us via the same website. We really want to accelerate our work, support new teams, improve our website, build rich media for better LENR communication and take on more permanent lab hands, so today we are announcing our new initiative called the ‘Fusion Fund‘”.
7) Already the name “Fusion Fund” sounds nice… What is it, exactly?
“It is a match fund and has 3 components:
1. Quantum Heat Inc – a 501.c.3 US charity registered in California;
2. Big ticket donation pledges that provide matching funds;
3. Donations by the crowd, either directly on the website, or to the US charity.
We are looking for philanthropic individuals or organizations to pledge $10,000 or more to the 501.c.3 that will be called upon as matching funds. When any other donations are received, they catalyze a reaction causing fusion with a matching fund, the smaller donor sees their contribution doubled and a match fund provider, depending on their tax rate, could see up to a quadrupling of their effective donation – this is a COP of 4!”.
8) Definitely an original idea, but I know that there is another little scoop for the readers…
“Yes, we hope to secure a number of match fund pledges, but the great news is, that for next year, we have already received two pledges of $20,000 or more which, when triggered by crowd donations, will yield $80,000. Of course, we need the small donations to make this happen, so the crowd is the key! All donations under $1000 since October 8th 2014 will be matched in this way. Thank you to every contributor – we’re lighting the New Fire together.”
BOB GREENYER holds a bachelor of Engineering and a Manufacturing Engineering degree from Brunel University, London. He co-founded Quantum Heat C.I.C., a not-for-profit Community Interest Company registered in United Kingdom.
I interviewed Piero Andreuccetti, an experienced Italian nuclear engineer who has always worked in the energy sector and follows the LENR for many years. Here he exposes us his interesting personal view and position on the subject.
1) Dr. Andreuccetti, do you remember when and how did you get interested in LENR for the first time?
“In mid Nineties, by chance, I heard of Randell Mills researches on ‘Hydrino’. His activity seemed to be connected with the 1989 Fleischmann & Pons’ announcement about Cold Nuclear Fusion obtained at (almost) room temperature by means of electrolysis experiments. But while in 1989 I had not been so excited by F&P discovery, because I had not seen a possibility to turn it into a readily available new energy source, when I heard of Mills discoveries I get more interested, also because of some contacts I had in Westinghouse at those times, confirming that some excess heat had been provisionally measured on Mills’ device”.
2) You followed the recent developments in the LENR sector. Do you think that we’re on the edge of an energy revolution?
“Not yet on the edge, but something is going to happen in a few years. Because too many signs are starting to find their way to emerge from the realm of the so called ‘junk science’ and acquire a new dignity among mainstream researchers. Just for instance: Brian Ahern is obtaining results with his LENR experiments at MIT, the same Institute that dismissed as ‘heretical’ F&P results 25 years ago… But one thing is sure: if an energy revolution will take place, it won’t be by a Government decree or Academia move: market battlefield will decide, if and when some LENR devices will have proved their economic convenience, their safety and dependability”.
3) Today would you recommend to a small company with no experience in this field to invest in research on LENR?
“Right now LENR is still a slippery field, because of several reasons: LENR phenomena are difficult to replicate, powers generated by these experiments – Rossi’s E-Cat excluded – are still too small to be of industrial interest, and poor understanding of the physics underlying LENR on the one hand prevents from an effective assessment of risks associated with a massive research activity in this field, while on the other does not allow a R&D effort that ‘makes sense’ in order to scale lab devices up to marketable apparatus… Public support would be strongly needed to absorb risks, but it is largely impeded by the adverse Academia lobbying”.
4) What do you think are the main advantages of a technology such as that underlying an E-Cat compared to the renewables?
“Renewables, I mean photovoltaic and wind energy, are quite dispersed and basically not-dependable. Up to date, feeding an extended and highly demanding energy system by only means of renewables is simply impossible: as a matter of fact, fossil energy sources are unavoidable. Well, a marketable E-Cat – and I make the point that Renewables and LENR are to be regarded as integrable rather than as alternative – would enable a credible exit strategy from traditional energy sources… such a scenario that presently is difficult also to simply figure out”.
5) Do you think that there are now enough available information to have a good chance of independently replicating an E-Cat?
“The last Independent Third Party Report (ITPR) about an E-Cat long lasting test has shed more light on how this device is made and actually works. Evidence of Nickel and Lithium isotopic changes throughout the test allows for a deeper analysis of the physical processes taking places in the E-Cat and, consequently, paves the way for a possible independent replication. In this respect, let’s consider that the first public tests performed on the E-Cat had been done on Andrea Rossi’s made devices, while the last ITPR has been conducted on an Industrial Heat’s made apparatus. This is already a replication, though not completely independent”.
6) If you owned the IP of the E-Cat, would you risk to lose it allowing to third parties an isotopic analysis of fuel and ash?
“As far as IP protection is concerned, my opinion is that allowing a completely open and independent third party isotopic analysis of fuel and ash is risky enough… I understand scientific method needs, but real industrial world need adequate self-defence measures. And I repeat: E-Cat success, if any, will not happen by a general consensus decided in a number of Academia congresses… market will decide, and going on the market imply IP protection, engineering, marketing, etc. Epistemology, though important, will come after”.
PIERO ANDREUCCETTI, Nuclear Engineer, is the Property and Technical Services Manager at CESI SpA, in Milan, Italy. He has a Ph.D. in Safety of Nuclear Power Plants obtained at the University of Pisa, and a Maitrise en Management at the Université libre de Bruxelles.